{"id":29763,"date":"2021-03-16T19:02:22","date_gmt":"2021-03-16T19:02:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dev.yogaesoteric.net\/?p=29763"},"modified":"2021-03-26T19:03:14","modified_gmt":"2021-03-26T19:03:14","slug":"breaking-the-covid-trance-how-the-irish-people-were-psychologically-manipulated-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/breaking-the-covid-trance-how-the-irish-people-were-psychologically-manipulated-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"Breaking the Covid Trance: How the (Irish) people were psychologically manipulated (II)"},"content":{"rendered":"

We publish a full transcript of a seminal interview with John Anthony conducted by Dave Cullen of\u00a0Computing Forever<\/em>, uploaded on 1st October 2020.<\/p>\n

Read\u00a0the first part<\/a>\u00a0of the article<\/p>\n

Engineering social pressure<\/strong><\/p>\n

Dave Cullen:<\/strong>\u00a0I think that\u2019s the social engineering. That\u2019s the public shaming aspect of it, the disapproval of everybody else in the community. The rest of the community will disapprove if you do this! Oh, you shouldn\u2019t do that! And part and parcel of the propaganda is that emotionality that\u2019s imbued, and that people start to become evangelists once they believe in it. It\u2019s like: when I was in the shopping centre, I was listening to the PA system, and every so often they would reinforce the messaging, and they\u2019d say, \u2018<\/em>As per government guidance, the wearing of face covering is mandatory\u2019, and so forth. And the HSE [Health Service Executive, the Irish state health service] says this, that and the other. And then they\u2019d get into something that sounds right out of the Soviet Union \u2013 \u2018<\/em>We\u2019re all in this together!\u2019 \u2013 they\u2019d say, \u2018<\/em>By wearing face coverings, you\u2019re showing that you care abut other people!\u2019.<\/em><\/p>\n

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Now, that is absolutely bananas, that the state would ever try to encourage this empathy among people. And the only reason they\u2019re doing it is for the same reason as you\u2019ve described there: Oh, it\u2019s that we\u2019re all trying to protect Nana! But it\u2019s very interesting how the choice is taken away from people, not just through the enforcement of the collective, or the populace among each other, telling each other, you know, \u2018<\/em>Can you step away please, you\u2019re too close to me!\u2019 or \u2018Why aren\u2019t you wearing a face mask?\u2019<\/em><\/p>\n

We saw this in the beginning: before the lockdowns became mandatory, it was just a simple suggestion of \u2018two weeks to flatten the curve\u2019, and what we want you to do is just stay home if you can, and work from home if you can, and that\u2019s that. And everywhere \u2013 in every country, at the same time \u2013 it was the same process I saw, which was, \u2018<\/em>Oh, let\u2019s loom over a few people sitting in the park! And they\u2019re not socially distancing!\u2019, or \u2018<\/em>They\u2019re not staying in their homes!\u2019, \u2018<\/em>Those are the bad eggs! And they\u2019re the reason why we have to now lock you all up!\u2019<\/em><\/p>\n

It\u2019s the psychology of the teacher in the classroom who punishes the entire class because of the actions of one student. You know, \u2018<\/em>If one more person speaks now\u2026\u2019 Or, \u2018<\/em>If one more child does something, the rest of you are getting detention!\u2019 And they did that in every single country, and it was like clockwork, and that always seemed to me to be the strategy all along, to achieve compliance.<\/em><\/p>\n

John Anthony:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, I would agree with you wholeheartedly on all of that. But there\u2019s a very precise and exacting way of doing this: if you study NLP, neurolinguistic programming, or if you have a look at hypnosis, at any level, or hypnotherapy, you look at the precise nature [of it], and there\u2019s a great predictability about it. And what I would say is this. You can look at it from an individual point of view; you have relationships going on around the country, and you have people who are abusive, and you have victims, and all that kind of interaction. On a slightly larger scale, then you have family dynamics, and you can have narcissistic, abusive dynamics, in a family. Now, these are not psychiatric conditions. We\u2019re not looking to label anybody here; we\u2019re looking for finding words to describe a model. We\u2019re searching to put a structure on this, or a little kind of map, so that people can begin to understand that there\u2019s a very great preciseness about this, that there\u2019s a predictability, a way of looking at this, and this has been known in psychology for quite some time.<\/p>\n

There was a Professor Sam Vaknin, and he had compiled a tremendous database, but there are lots of [other] people. There\u2019s another man called Ross Rosenberg, and he brought out a model, and he called it\u00a0The Human Magnet Syndrome<\/em>. And everybody is somewhere on the scale in this. On the extreme end of the scale, you\u2019ve got psychopathy \u2013 very manipulative people, who are the rarer ones. And then you have narcissistic people, who are self-entitled, grandiose, and that kind of character. And they are manipulators, and you come down to a basic structure in their personalities and their behaviour that they\u2019re looking for control, attention and manipulation. That would be qualities at one extreme end of the spectrum. And then you come to the centre, and you have most people in the centre, who are empathetic, who can have differences with people, who can be slightly manipulative at times. But these are ordinary people, who get on with life. They have a certain amount of empathy, they can say sorry to others, and behaving like that.<\/p>\n

The narcissistic personality<\/strong><\/p>\n

Up at the extreme end, you don\u2019t have that: you have people who are very much afraid of being blamed, who don\u2019t take responsibility for themselves, who are grandiose and entitled in their behaviour. And what has happened \u2013 there was a Dr Ramani [Ramani Durvasula] who talks about this, and she says that sometimes this becomes endemic in society, and we start to praise, and to get a value system around, hard-nosed people who can \u2018do the job and get on with it<\/em>\u2019.<\/p>\n

A person who comes to mind is \u2013 we idealise people like \u2013 there was this guy [TV chef Gordon] Ramsay in\u00a0Hell\u2019s Kitchen<\/em>, who\u2019s this very rude person and he shouts at people, and he made his fame on this sort of thing. And he was a very good cook as well! I\u2019m not debasing that, his skill. But do you see what I\u2019m coming at: that there\u2019s a value system that puts the value on the hard-nosed achiever who manipulates interactions for themselves, and you put them on a pedestal.<\/p>\n

Narcissists help each other into power<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thomas Sheridan is another writer about psychopathy in particular. He wrote a book, many years ago now, called\u00a0Strange Behaviours<\/em>, and it\u2019s about psychopathy. And he claims that people who have this psychopathic tendency, and on down the spectrum a bit towards the narcissistic tendency \u2013 and I\u2019ll go into that a little more clearly, but just bear with me for the moment \u2013 that they become clustered, that in other words they find each other in positions of power, because that\u2019s what they like: they like control, positions of power, positions of trust. And when you think back on the recent history of Ireland: you had the priests who were found to be paedophiles, you had the Tuam scandal, you had Brendan Smyth. You had people who were beyond reproach, and this was part of the problem.<\/p>\n

I grew up myself in a staunchly Catholic family, and I know [that] my father, who is passed away now many years, had a great regard for the priests, and he didn\u2019t like anybody saying anything about them. These people were looked up to: they were the moral theologians; they were the moral police, the moral advisers. So, people of this nature \u2013 the narcissistic, psychopathic, that kind of nature, began to cluster in these areas. Now that was only one area. They also do it in politics.<\/p>\n

Thomas Sheridan, in his case, came across these people, and he was in the finance industry. And he said that you would often find these people as the CEOs of organisations, because they knew how to dole out instructions. They weren\u2019t very empathetic, so they could cut people\u2019s jobs, or fire them, or do whatever was necessary, and this was sort of looked up to, almost, as a way of life that you could aspire to, almost.<\/p>\n

But as you come down the line, in the middle, most people have tendencies one side or the other, but that\u2019s all they are: tendencies. We often have narcissistic bouts ourselves, where we feel we did something selfish.<\/p>\n

And then you go down to the other end of the scale, and this is where it\u2019s interesting now, because that\u2019s what\u2019s happening. At the other end of the scale, you have the compliant, the empathetic, the person who wants to please people. And these would be the people who \u2013 when they hear the authority speaking, telling them to \u2018Wear your mask<\/em>\u2019 \u2013 they would be the people who say, \u2018Look it, we\u2019ll pull together and we\u2019ll do it<\/em>.\u2019 Because these people have great empathy for each other, for other people, they want to solve the problem. They want to please the narcissist.<\/p>\n

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And this is where the dance begins: the group at one end, the compliant, empathetic, want to solve the problem think that if they do it right this time the person that they\u2019re listening to, the authority \u2013 the NHS or the HSE, the health authorities \u2013 or the politicians, will be pleased, because these are the ones that are rolling out the instructions: to tell us to wear masks, to lock up our elderly people, to not have freedom of speech.<\/p>\n

Now, that kind of dance between the two types of individuals has a very precise and predictable nature about it. And I\u2019m talking here about people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder \u2013 it\u00a0is not<\/strong>\u00a0a psychiatric condition. Anybody can live like this, and do so well, and never do anything much out of the way. But if it becomes something that overtakes them, then they can do an awful lot of damage. And that\u2019s where you hear phrases like \u2018narcissistic abuse<\/em>\u2019: you often hear that in family dynamics.<\/p>\n

D.C.:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, John, you\u2019ve described that very much on the macro level of what we\u2019re seeing collectively, between the elites and what they\u2019re doing to the general population. I feel it\u2019s taking advantage of the better nature of most people. But, actually, if we\u2019re looking at this as two people \u2013 a narcissist and their victim \u2013 in a household, domestic abuse, I feel very much what you described there is that the victim feels so trapped that they can\u2019t do anything right.<\/em><\/p>\n

And when we spoke a few days ago, I was saying that it reminds me of the battered wife who is in this relationship with a man who is constantly psychologically or physically abusive to her. One day, he could be very nice to her, and then the next day he could be very quiet, or a little bit distant, and then another day he might be shouting at her and another day he might be violent. And so she never knows what vector of assault he\u2019s going to come at.<\/em><\/p>\n

Stages of the abuse cycle<\/strong><\/p>\n

J.A.:<\/strong>\u00a0Exactly. And what I would just interject here is that what you\u2019ve describing is on the micro level. This is relationships between people. And it\u2019s the very precise same roll-out that you get on the macro level as on the micro level. And I\u2019ll just go into that now, if I may, and just describe exactly what you say.<\/p>\n

On a relationship level, that\u2019s exactly what you\u2019re talking about. There\u2019s a precise way that this occurs. The relationship is formed, and they say there\u2019s four parts to it. It\u2019s not a very complicated psychological aspect to understand. When you get to understand the model, it can be very simple. And when you see it being rolled out, then you begin to recognise it, once you know about it.<\/p>\n

As you rightly say, it begins with two people having a relationship, a man and a wife. And the first part of the relationship is what\u2019s called the lovebombing aspect, or the idealisation phase, or the identification phase, where they say, \u2018Oh, you\u2019re wonderful<\/em>\u2019, or, \u2018Everything is terrific about you<\/em>\u2019, \u2018We\u2019re soulmates<\/em>\u2019, and words like that. Thomas Sheridan, in his book talks with some people who say there is this process whereby they emulate the other person. Very often, in the beginning, they will listen attentively to the other person \u2013 this is the narcissistic person, the abusive person, and what they\u2019re doing is they\u2019re gathering information from that person. Now, they do it intuitively, some of these people, they do it by default. Some of them can be very manipulative and do it deliberately. But a lot of the time, this happens because of the nature of the two personalities.<\/p>\n

And everything is terrific in the lovebombing stage: the empathetic person feels they have found somebody that understands them, and listens to them, and the narcissistic person is listening to them and gathering information about this person, and begins to understand them and give sense to the information about them.<\/p>\n

The second part of the process [kicks in] because the narcissistic person cannot maintain the persona. It\u2019s a false persona that they produce: they\u2019re massively insecure people, there\u2019s no doubt about that; they need attention, and they need to get control, and they need this manipulation, in order to validate who they are. This is very important: \u2018I feel alive!<\/em>\u2019 and \u2018I feel loved!<\/em>\u2019, but any kind of questioning, or any kind of criticism, by joke, they take it very seriously. And they take what\u2019s called \u2018narcissistic insult<\/em>\u2019. Now, obviously, in any normal intimate relationship, that begins to break down, because of the fact that you\u2019re dealing with a false personality to begin with. If they understand that you\u2019re interested in literature, they will have a book under their arm and it\u2019ll be something along the lines of what they heard you talking about, and they\u2019ll say, \u2018This is very interesting<\/em>.\u2019 So they\u2019re ingratiating themselves with the other person.<\/p>\n

Now, this is on the\u00a0micro<\/strong>\u00a0level. We\u2019ll come to the political level in a minute, because it\u2019s exactly the same.<\/p>\n

Think of that for a moment \u2013 that kind of ingratiation, that kind of lovebombing \u2013 and think of the speech that Leo Varadkar made to the nation, and all the other speeches that other politicians made, when they were doling out the lovebombing of, \u2018We are with you!<\/em>\u2019 This was the phrase that he used in his St Patrick\u2019s Day speech, when he spoke about the \u2018coming calamity<\/em>\u2019. And he said, \u2018And it will come!<\/em>\u2019 He seemed to know stuff that nobody else seemed to know precisely. That\u2019s on the\u00a0macro<\/strong>\u00a0level: you\u2019re talking about society. That\u2019s where you identify with people, and you begin to say, \u2018We\u2019re on together<\/em>\u2019, and \u2018We\u2019re all together in this<\/em>.\u2019<\/p>\n

Again, I get back to the\u00a0Ryan Tubridy Show<\/em>: he was talking about looking in at Nana and Grandad and waving, and the children and they were all so happy \u2013 building this framework. And the compliant person fits themselves into their framework, and that\u2019s the beginning of the second part of the process. On an individual level, it can be six months, or something like that. And again, because of the insecurity that they feel, they begin this process of denigration, the process of devaluing the partner that they have begun to target and control. And, because this person is compliant, he will begin to [devalue her] \u2013 we\u2019re assuming here, by the way, that the target is a woman and the narcissist is a man, but it can be the other way around; we\u2019re not being gender-biased here, we\u2019re just taking examples.<\/p>\n

So, he begins the denigration process, which is the control process, and he sees how it\u2019s taking, he\u2019s monitoring this all the time, and the abuse then begins to creep in. And, as you see, there are lots of films and there are lots of stuff in the soaps. You know, you often see this, where an abusive partner begins to take control \u2013 in the beginning, they\u2019re buying them presents and things like that, and it\u2019s never directly out in the open.<\/p>\n

This is covert stuff, [when] they begin the denigration process and the devaluing, but at that stage the compliant person \u2013 the impact on the empathic person, who\u2019s doing their best to keep it all together \u2013 they\u2019re beginning to get addicted to the narcissist. This is where, at both ends of the scale the dance begins, then, and they begin to get addicted to the narcissist. Why? Because they say, \u2018Well, he was so wonderful, and he did all sorts of things for me and he bought me this and that, and now it\u2019s beginning to break down<\/em>,\u2019 but they will make excuses for them. They will become an apologist for the narcissist.<\/p>\n

D.C.:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes, John, it\u2019s almost like the Stockholm Syndrome thing of identifying with your captor. You\u2019ve just reminded me \u2013 I think you hit the nail on the head. In those opening months, there was so much trust: of the media, of the government, of Leo Varadkar, for example, in Ireland. It was a love affair, it was very passionate. It was all very lovey-dovey. It was a seduction process of, \u2018<\/em>We\u2019re all in this together\u2019, \u2018<\/em>We\u2019re doing this to protect you\u2019, and all this kind of language. They didn\u2019t begin with the heavy-handed policing that we\u2019re seeing in [the Australian state of] Victoria. They didn\u2019t begin with the terror and the heavy-handed policing that we\u2019re seeing now. That always has to come later. And it\u2019s so difficult \u2013 because history is replete with examples of exactly what we\u2019re describing \u2013 it\u2019s so hard to tell people, \u2018<\/em>Look, this is always the same honey-trap situation, over and over again.\u2019 This is always the same \u2013 the Venus fly trap, I should say \u2013 it\u2019s always the same tactic over and over.<\/em><\/p>\n

J.A.:<\/strong>\u00a0Absolutely! And the hardest person to convince that they\u2019re in this trap, from a therapeutic point of view, is when you get somebody in front of you and they\u2019re making excuses for their partner and they have a black eye or \u2026 you know. I remember working with somebody once who had actually been beaten up and they made the excuse, \u2018Do you know, I wasn\u2019t so very good; I did this and I did that<\/em>,\u2019 and they were actually blaming themselves, right, and that\u2019s what happens and that is so horrific to even hear, you know. But that is it: the honey[moon] period \u2013 you\u2019re lured in and then you\u2019re the soulmate and everything is fine, and then the denigration is covert and it\u2019s also done in a way that it makes the empathic person, or the compliant person, feel that the other person is doing it for their good, right? So I can say to somebody: let\u2019s say, if I was a narcissist and I was in this abusive cycle with somebody, I would begin to say, \u2018Now, darling, you were never much good at that, really, you know, if the truth be told. But I can get you help with that<\/em>.\u2019 You know?<\/p>\n

We will now support you by terrorising you<\/strong><\/p>\n

Now, that seems like as if I\u2019m doing some good. It sounds like \u2013 now recall here what was done with the elderly in the beginning \u2013 \u2018We\u2019re doing it to keep you safe. Stay safe and it\u2019s only a couple of weeks and we\u2019ll get you through it<\/em>.\u2019 And some of the politicians came out and they said that these vehicles, all this extra security, right, and the Guards and soldiers \u2013 we\u2019re having these vehicles\u2026 What were they for? Well they were to \u2018support the community<\/em>\u2019, and they even suggested that the extra Garda vehicles were to, you know, to go to people who might be isolated, and bring them their medicines from the shop or whatever, because they couldn\u2019t go out.<\/p>\n

Now, that is totally right in the centre of this process that I\u2019m talking about. It\u2019s the very same aspect on an individual level. The abuser begins to put the person down. They begin to isolate them, right? This is a given, it\u2019s a known sort of process, and it\u2019s very predictable. They begin to isolate them from their family. That\u2019s one of the signs. They isolate them from their society. So I could suggest, like, \u2018We\u2019ll go away somewhere and we\u2019ll go to a different part of the country. And you won\u2019t have to put up with those parents you have or those brothers and sisters you have. We\u2019d be far better off on our own, and things will be idyllic when we get there<\/em>.\u2019<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s get you nicely cut off<\/strong><\/p>\n

When you do that, when you get there, this isolation begins then the abuse begins to get worse, because now they have you under more control. They have you isolated from your peers, from your family, from aspects like that. On the national level, that\u2019s exactly what they\u2019ve rolled out: the second phase was brought in; everybody was being told, \u2018You can\u2019t go out<\/em>.\u2019 Older people that we held in our esteem, and people that we loved, Nanas and Grandads and parents, you know. And one friend of mine mentioned, \u2018I haven\u2019t seen my mother in three weeks<\/em>.\u2019 This was kind of during the process, and he said, \u2018It\u2019s all this Corona stuff<\/em>.\u2019<\/p>\n

And I said, \u2018It\u2019s not the corona stuff,\u2019 quite openly to him. \u2018I blame the lockdown. If you want to blame anything, blame the lockdown. That\u2019s what it\u2019s doing: it\u2019s isolating people, it\u2019s keeping them locked up. Forget about the Coronavirus just for the moment. That\u2019s the first thing you [should] do, and then you take whatever precautions you think are necessary. But just weigh it up and blame it where belongs, you know?<\/em>\u2019<\/p>\n

D.C.:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, this is exactly what you said to me the other day, John: the government is coming out with this idea where \u2013 and it\u2019s so childish \u2013 it\u2019s this mindset of, \u2018It\u2019s not the government that\u2019s keeping you locked up; it\u2019s the virus\u2019, or something to that effect.<\/em><\/p>\n

\nRead\u00a0the third part<\/a>\u00a0of the article<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

We publish a full transcript of a seminal interview with John Anthony conducted by Dave Cullen of\u00a0Computing Forever, uploaded on 1st October 2020. Read\u00a0the first part\u00a0of the article Engineering social pressure Dave Cullen:\u00a0I think that\u2019s the social engineering. That\u2019s the public shaming aspect of it, the disapproval of everybody else in the community. The rest […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[980,813],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29763","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-about-perverse-masonic-manipulations-3480-en","category-unmasking-freemasonry-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29763","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=29763"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29763\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":29764,"href":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/29763\/revisions\/29764"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=29763"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=29763"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=29763"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}