{"id":29789,"date":"2021-03-22T19:33:57","date_gmt":"2021-03-22T19:33:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/dev.yogaesoteric.net\/?p=29789"},"modified":"2021-03-26T19:34:56","modified_gmt":"2021-03-26T19:34:56","slug":"breaking-the-covid-trance-how-the-irish-people-were-psychologically-manipulated-iii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/en\/breaking-the-covid-trance-how-the-irish-people-were-psychologically-manipulated-iii\/","title":{"rendered":"Breaking the Covid Trance: how the (Irish) people were psychologically manipulated (III)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"justify\">We publish a full transcript of a seminal interview with John Anthony conducted by Dave Cullen of\u00a0<em>Computing Forever<\/em>, uploaded on 1st October 2020.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\nRead\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/content.aspx?lang=EN&amp;item=26358\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the second part<\/a>\u00a0of the article<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dave Cullen:<\/strong><em>Well, this is exactly what you said to me the other day, John: the government is coming out with this idea where \u2013 and it\u2019s so childish \u2013 it\u2019s this mindset of, \u2018It\u2019s not the government that\u2019s keeping you locked up; it\u2019s the virus\u2019, or something to that effect.<\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/all_uploads\/uploads6\/martie%202021\/22\/26430_1.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>John Anthony:<\/strong>\u00a0It\u2019s exactly that, Dave. I heard [the current Taoiseach] Miche\u00e1l Martin saying it to one of the interviewers at the time. I forget which one it was, but he actually did say it. This is all evident for anybody who goes through the archives and listens for the last six months, from March (2020) until now. Listen to the interviews: listen to how it\u2019s being said. Miche\u00e1l Martin definitely said \u2013 I remember it distinctly \u2013 \u2018<em>It\u2019s not the Irish Government that\u2019s doing the lockdowns; it\u2019s the virus<\/em>.\u2019<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Now, this is childish nonsense, because the virus can\u2019t do anything. The virus is a virus, and we\u2019ve been living with viruses forever, and even if it were deadly or whatever. But in the beginning they were calling it \u2018<em>the deadly virus<\/em>\u2019. And this is what we kind of get on to now. The abuse has begun, and it is very, very pervasive. They are instilling fear into the population. So the question is now, how exactly are they doing that?<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>How fear is instilled<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Yes, we know that they\u2019re saying they\u2019re afraid the HSE will be overwhelmed, they\u2019re afraid the hospitals will be overwhelmed, and the last time they were talking about this, the hospitals were empty, and we all assumed, \u2018<em>They made a mistake about that; we\u2019ll get on with it<\/em>.\u2019 But now, the evidence is saying that it\u2019s not even spreading. Ivor Cummins gave an update, a wonderful update. He picked out different countries, he picked out Ireland. And he said that this wave, if you like, is over. The virus is over; it\u2019s gone. It has produced a curve like any other year, and then it\u2019s flattened out. We\u2019re looking at this at the moment, and now we should be asking ourselves, \u2018<em>What\u2019s the lockdown about now?<\/em>\u2019<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">So we get on to the third phase. The devaluation, I would say, has almost come to an end, and we get to the third stage, and this goes for whether you look at it from the personal breakdowns and abusiveness and aspects like that, if you look at it on the macro level and you\u2019re looking at politicians and the way society is working and facts like that. I don\u2019t look outside Ireland so much. I\u2019m looking at what\u2019s occurring in Ireland and this is not a theory \u2013 what we\u2019re looking at what was in the last six months.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>Upping the ante<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">So now we\u2019ve got the third phase. The third phase is when the\u00a0<strong>abuse increases<\/strong>, and you have aspects like abandonment, right? Ghosting: meaning that the person in the relationship goes away, they spend a couple of days away. The wife may not know where they are, you know? And he comes back and he says, \u2018Oh \u2026\u2019 and, again, watch the language: they will never take responsibility for what they have done. Very often, they will apologise in one way, and say, you know, \u2018<em>I was away, but if you weren\u2019t so picky, and hadn\u2019t such a temper, and gave out [nagged me] so much, I wouldn\u2019t have to go away, if aspects were normal<\/em>.\u2019 Now, all of a sudden, it\u2019s the partner\u2019s fault.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Do you understand what I\u2019m getting at here? It\u2019s that this is the third phase, the abandonment phase, which is where they can dole out the abuse of all sorts. They can go away \u2013 infidelity might be part of it. And this is where the compliant person begins to hit rock bottom. Because they have been looking to do everything according to \u2026 They have, in a way, abandoned their own experience and their own judgement, because each time that they do something, they\u2019ll say to themselves, \u2018<em>Well, that\u2019s a very simple aspect. I should have known that he doesn\u2019t eat steak for his dinner, and I put on a steak \u2013 and I forgot, really, and there was a blow-up<\/em>.\u2019<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">And now the person is beginning to enter into a phase where they\u2019re so unsure of themselves, where the goalposts are constantly modifying and where the confusion is mounting in them, and they\u00a0<em>do not know<\/em>, because of this addiction, because of this ideal that they had about the person, that they had in the beginning \u2013 it\u2019s holding the map in place, if you like. But they do not know, and they are beginning to blame themselves.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>D.C.:<\/strong>\u00a0<em>Well, let me give you an example that sprang to mind just as you said that there, John, which was the sort of amnesia element of the propaganda, the requirement to forget past instructions, or rather the information and the detail, but to continue the behaviours, the new behaviours that they given you, the \u2018New Normal\u2019, so to speak. One of the classic examples is that, in the beginning, when there were a few furtive beginnings of pushback to this, a few small anti-lockdown protests: they were very tiny, they didn\u2019t have widespread public support, but they were there.<\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em>John Waters and Gemma O\u2019Doherty were going forward with their legal challenge. But we were told: \u2018Anybody going outside in large groups, they should be reported \u2013 they\u2019re putting people\u2019s lives in danger\u2019, this is crazy! And then, right smack bang in the middle of the summer, what did we have? George Floyd \/ BLM protests \u2013 and not only was there no mention of the fact that there were thousands of people on the streets in Dublin, that wasn\u2019t [even] an issue. The media had no issue with thousands of people walking down across College Green and so forth. It was encouraged and celebrated.<\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em>And so that\u2019s the gaslighting aspect: it\u2019s as if, just briefly, the coronavirus was put on hold. It was just sort of disabled \u2013 and that\u2019s fine! And nobody puts this together and says, \u2018How come it\u2019s okay for them?\u2019 The media doesn\u2019t focus on it, because they have you at that stage. They own you \u2013 that\u2019s what they feel. Talk to me a little bit about that.<\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>J.A.:<\/strong>\u00a0Well, that is the process: If you\u2019re talking about somebody with Narcissistic Personality Disorder, nothing applies to them. They\u2019re elitist, they\u2019re above the rules and regulations. \u2018<em>That\u2019s for you, but it\u2019s not for me<\/em>.\u2019 That\u2019s the basic statement, if you like, and we\u2019ve seen examples of that. But also (and this is very interesting now) when a person changes the goalposts, when they say one thing and then claim another \u2013 by the way, narcissistic people are also inveterate liars: they just say, \u2018<em>Well, hang on a second, I never said that; that wasn\u2019t what I meant<\/em>\u2019 \u2013 and [when] it\u2019s that kind of relationship you\u2019re talking about, [then] this introduces confusion.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>Good cop, bad cop<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Now, this is very, very important, because when you introduce confusion and you have people saying, \u2018<em>Well, that\u2019s not what I understood you said, and I was trying to do the best I could<\/em>\u2019, and then you\u2019re being given out to [nagged] and told that you could be caught out in lies. And when that happens, the confusion itself leaves you open \u2013 and this is very interesting; this is where it all comes together \u2013 there are three ways, they say, that you can induce, open up somebody\u2019s consciousness.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">This goes for studying hypnotherapy or NLP techniques or anything like that. This is the structure, this is the formula, and it\u2019s a very simple one, and it\u2019s this: that you open up the person\u2019s mind of their subconscious. You open it up to\u00a0<strong>suggestion<\/strong>. Now, how do you do that? There are three ways that you do it.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>1. Scare \u2019em witless for starters<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">The first way is with a\u00a0<strong>fright<\/strong>, so you introduce something that causes fear \u2013 like, \u2018<em>The coronavirus is coming, it\u2019s going to wipe out<\/em>\u2026\u2019 I heard figures at the beginning like \u2018<em>600,000 people will be affected<\/em>\u2019, and all this sort of phrases and, you know, we were looking around at a society where everything was working normally, but this was the projection, so fear is one of them. When you introduce fear, you can then suggest something to those people, and that suggestion will go in at a very deep level.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">So, you know, \u2018<em>we have to<\/em>\u2019 lock up our elderly; \u2018<em>we have to<\/em>\u2019, you know, stop people from working; there\u2019s a whole list of aspects which they have done: they\u2019ve taken away our free speech, they took away our traditions, you know, and aspects like that. We did it on the back of fear, so they introduced fear. So it was like, \u2018<em>The Russians are coming! There\u2019s going to be an annihilation!<\/em>\u2019 Like, we had a period in this country when we thought we were going to be nuked at one stage, and like the fear had us all running around: it\u2019s the very same today, that fear is on the go.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>2. Allowed today, verboten tomorrow<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Now, the second one is where you introduce\u00a0<strong>confusion<\/strong>. So I say to you today, you cannot travel more than two kilometers from your house. If you\u2019re over 70, you can\u2019t leave the house at all. You know, a couple of phrases like that, and as I\u2019m going along I\u2019m introducing other regulations, and some of them don\u2019t make sense, right? You\u2019re saying to yourself, \u2018<em>Well, how could that be? I mean, that\u2019s not right!<\/em>\u2019 Now, the introduction of that confusion leaves you open to further suggestion, so that you can go in there and you can put in something [as a message], and you can say, \u2018<em>Well now this is what you should be doing<\/em>.\u2019<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/all_uploads\/uploads6\/martie%202021\/22\/26430_2.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">I\u2019ve heard it on\u00a0<em>RT\u00c9<\/em>\u00a0again: our friend Ryan Tubridy said \u2013 \u2018<em>this is all in the last couple of weeks, it\u2019s not a long time ago, this is just history, and I saw people there, and they were great, they were all doing the right thing<\/em>\u2019 \u2013 you\u2019re introducing this kind of phraseology: \u2018<em>doing the right thing<\/em>\u2019. I was in Dublin there a few days ago, and I was dropping someone up to the airport to get a flight, but as I was going up to the airport, they have signs across the M1. They\u2019d usually say \u2018<em>15 minutes to the airport<\/em>\u2019 or \u2018<em>Half an hour to the airport<\/em>\u2019, or maybe the number of kilometers. But what\u2019s up there now? What\u2019s right across the M1? And this is where programming becomes so invasive and pervasive in our lives. I think it said \u2018<em>Hold Firm<\/em>\u2019.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>D.C.:<\/strong>\u00a0<em>Stay Safe, Protect Each Other, Wear a Mask, Stay at Home.<\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>J.A.:<\/strong>\u00a0That\u2019s right, \u2018<em>Stay Safe<\/em>\u2019, \u2018<em>Hold Firm<\/em>\u2019 and \u2018<em>Protect Each Other<\/em>\u2019.<br \/>\nRight, [let\u2019s take] \u2018<em>Hold Firm<\/em>\u2019. Now, if you\u2019re holding firm, that\u2019s a suggestion, and you say, \u2018<em>Well, what\u2019s wrong with that?<\/em>\u2019 If you\u2019re holding firm, that means you\u2019re holding firm against something, there\u2019s an enemy out there, is necessary you to stand your ground, is necessary you to \u2026 If you\u2019re talking in that kind of language, you could be talking to people in a boxing ring, and this is kind of a subtle manipulation, but I saw three of those signs across the M1 as I was going up towards the airport, and three of these big signs across the way: \u2018<em>Hold Firm<\/em>\u2019, \u2018<em>Stay Safe<\/em>\u2019, and \u2018<em>Protect Each Other<\/em>\u2019. That\u2019s what was written on it.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Now, that\u2019s using every aspect that they can use to bring this fear-mongering, this control, into place, and that is at the stage of where you have introduced the fright. You have introduced the three aspects: you\u2019ve introduced\u00a0<strong>confusion<\/strong>, you\u2019ve introduced the\u00a0<strong>fear<\/strong>, and the last aspect \u2013 and hopefully this won\u2019t happen \u2013 but you introduce [a stage] where what they say is that the\u00a0<strong>bodily integrity<\/strong>\u00a0is broken. In other words, somebody comes along and they are in a park they shouldn\u2019t be in, or they\u2019re on a train and they\u2019re not wearing a mask and they refuse to wear it and aspects like that, and the Guards [Garda\u00ed, police] are called. And I heard, I think it was Rowan Croft was on, and he had on Melissa, who had a child at home who needed pain medication. She went into a chemist\u2019s shop in Wexford and the Guards were called. She left her money, she left her prescription, and she went outside, and I think she sat on the windowsill or something. The Guards were called. I think she didn\u2019t have a mask. I think that was the issue, and the Guards were called.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>3. Invading the victim\u2019s bodily integrity<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">So now the bodily integrity is beginning to get threatened. And this is one of the final places where, when everything is threatened, whatever is said goes in very deeply. And if you can get that going at a macro level in the political scene, then you\u2019ve got the third aspect, the third point [by which] people can be deeply programmed. So you\u2019ve got the confusion, people trying to do \u2018<em>the right thing<\/em>\u2019, and then they say, \u2018<em>That\u2019s not what it was last week<\/em>,\u2019 and, \u2018<em>No, I don\u2019t like the feeling of this, they say they are locking us up<\/em>.\u2019 You know, I know 70-year-olds who are much fitter than I am, and they were being locked up in their houses. Simon Harris came on in the beginning, and he said, I remember this distinctly \u2013 this is at the height of the beautiful summer that we had, and we weren\u2019t in Hong Kong where we could think it\u2019s because of the smog or whatever; we have a beautiful Atlantic breeze coming in here in the West [of Ireland] \u2013 he said, \u2018<em>Normally, yes, going out in the fresh air is good for you, having your family around and supporting you is normally good for you and exercise is good for you; but just for the next couple of weeks we\u2019re going to just lock you down and you can\u2019t leave the house<\/em>.\u2019 Now, that was what was said, that\u2019s what he did.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>The still, small voice of reality<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">It wasn\u2019t the coronavirus that did it: they implemented this stuff and they rolled it out, and this is what made people feel bad. This is what denigrates people, they come away intuitively knowing, \u2018<em>Yeah, I know they said that they were going to help us and they\u2019re doing it all for us to protect us, and all that kind of stuff.<\/em>\u2019 But something is ringing in the back of their head saying, \u2018<em>This is bullshit<\/em>.\u2019 And I actually compare it to the fable\u00a0<em>The Emperor\u2019s New Clothes<\/em>, where two fraudsters come and they have invisible clothes and they sell it to the Emperor and he\u2019s afraid to say something is wrong with these invisible clothes, so he goes along with it even though he can\u2019t see them. That\u2019s what you\u2019re talking about.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">You\u2019re also talking about something \u2013 if I can draw just one other analogy \u2013 [where] if you have somebody coming to your door and they say, \u2018<em>I\u2019m in the area anyway and I notice there you have some loose slates and I see your house needs painting and I could do it for a cheap price<\/em>,\u2019 but they\u2019re really casing the joint for some other reason, right? They might want to see what you have in your house, they\u2019re trying to see if there\u2019s anything good to take and things like that, they\u2019re fraudsters.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>Reverse-engineering of therapy<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Now, when you have that kind of situation, you can be taken by the narrative: the narrative is Covid, oh my God, you\u2019re taken by it, and you go with the story. And when you\u2019re going with the story, you forget to use your own intuition, your own critical thinking. And you go with the story because of the fear, because of confusion and because your bodily integrity can be also threatened, which is the Guards and security and extra vehicles and all this kind of aspects.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">I don\u2019t know, I hope I\u2019m explaining this well: that\u2019s how programming is done. You do it in a hypnotherapeutic sense, you do it with the client sitting in front of you. But [there,] you\u2019re doing it for their upliftment, for their enhancement, to empower them to do whatever they need to do, you do it for a different purpose altogether. So wherever you have two people communicating, wherever you have societies talking to each other and aspects like that, this kind of interaction goes on in a very normal way; but when it\u2019s done in an insidious way, and when it\u2019s done with the government in collusion with the mainstream media and the HSE, that has my mind boggled, it really has.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>D.C.:<\/strong>\u00a0<em>Well, John, you\u2019ve explained it brilliantly, I\u2019ve got to throw something in there, which is when we are looking for reaching people \u2013 and I\u2019ve encountered this, and I know a lot of people watching and commenting will be able to confirm that they have experienced this in their own personal lives, among friends and family \u2013 I\u2019ve always felt that this hypnotic suggestion that people have consumed, this propaganda, sort of has this inbuilt defense mechanism \u2013 that\u2019s how I have described it; you might have a technical term for it \u2013 but it\u2019s anger.<\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><em>And so, if you are looking to bring someone out of it and explain to them, just with facts and reason and data \u2013 right? \u2013 very tactfully, \u2018Well, these are the data; these are the facts; let me show you what I\u2019ve discovered when I\u2019ve done a little bit of research,\u2019 what happens is they get angry! And it\u2019s from 0 to 60 \u2013 I\u2019ve seen this, where people are perfectly calm, and you challenge this belief and they get angry. It\u2019s almost as if the propaganda in their mind, the virus of their mind, so to speak \u2013that\u2019s the real issue here \u2013 has this security system in place, which puts up a wall. How do you describe that? What\u2019s actually happening there, on a hypnotherapist level?<\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>The abusers have left a defense mechanism behind<\/strong><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">JA: Sure. Well, if you\u2019re programmed, you know \u2013 as we have explained about the pervasiveness of the programming that\u2019s going on \u2013 we can talk, as I said, about what I\u2019ve heard them saying on the radio and the TV: there\u2019s loads of examples of that now at this stage, having gone through the [first] six months, where they\u2019re not asking questions, where they\u2019re just programming fear, all that kind of stuff.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Now, this is where the real manipulation comes in, because this has to be contrived. It is necessary to be a contrivance, it is necessary to be a collusion, it is necessary to be done very precisely; and that is what I think is happening on the mainstream media. What I think is that the contrivance blanket, the collusion, is so massive that even I find it hard to believe that presenters and people on the mainstream media that I know \u2013 and that I sort of admired over the years for their ability to talk and interview and aspects like that \u2013 have gotten drawn into this and are now doing it in such a way that there are no questions being asked.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">So they talk about the three consciences, okay, if I can just divert a little bit for the moment, to answer your question. The three consciences. The\u00a0<em>conscious one<\/em>\u00a0that we feel with every day of our lives, [when] we are consciously doing stuff. And we have the\u00a0<em>emotional one<\/em>, and then we have the\u00a0<em>reptilian one<\/em>. And the reptilian aspect is the most basic survival instinct that you can get. Now, there is a very famous American hypnotist who says if you get control of the reptilian brain\u2019s conscience \u2013 if you can communicate with the reptilian brain\u2019s conscience \u2013 [then] the reptilian brain\u2019s conscience rules the roost. And it\u2019s a bit like when you\u2019re in your house and you look down on the ground and there is a rope. And for that second, the reptilian brain\u2019s conscience will pounce in with that \u2018<em>Snake!<\/em>\u2019 It\u2019s your survival instinct. It gets the message through to you, and then you make a jump and you say \u2018<em>Oh my God!<\/em>\u2019, and then a few seconds later you say, \u2018<em>Oh, sure I thought it was a snake!<\/em>\u2019<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">So that\u2019s the kind of scenario you have: the reptilian brain\u2019s conscience gets there first, it gets there in a nanosecond, before the lucid consciousness has made up its perspective about anything. Now, the reptilian brain\u2019s conscience, they say, in regards to programming, it asks the questions. \u2018<em>Is it safe?<\/em>\u2019 \u2018<em>No, it\u2019s not safe at all because you have this coronavirus and it\u2019s going to kill and affect so many people, and we have 200 more cases today<\/em>\u2019. Okay, so it\u2019s not safe. It asks a second question. The first question is, \u2018<em>Is it safe?<\/em>\u2019, so that kind of stimulates the survival instinct. And then the next question is, \u2018<em>Can I eat it?<\/em>\u2019 \u2018<em>Is it going to be of some benefit to me?<\/em>\u2019 It\u2019s kind of just a reptilian response: is this going to be dangerous, or is this going to be safe?<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">And the last question: they say \u2013 and this is where marketing comes in, in a big way \u2013 they say, \u2018<em>Well, can I mate with it?<\/em>\u2019 These are the three basic instincts: \u2018<em>Is it safe?<\/em>\u2019, \u2018<em>Is it food?<\/em>\u2019, \u2018<em>Can I mate with it?<\/em>\u2019. They are the three basic primal things, and they get there before anything else, which is what keeps you safe: it makes you jump!<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Now, if you have been programmed at this big level [with], as I say, \u2018<em>Coronavirus is coming, it\u2019s not safe, it\u2019s not safe to go outside!<\/em>\u2019, [then] you have elderly people and other people that won\u2019t even go out shopping \u2013 to this day \u2013 that used to go out shopping, that used to go to the pub. They have no pub to go to now, they are isolated from their families.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>All the characteristics of abuse have been put in place, and its control<\/strong>. And when you have that, it kind of explains [the ineffectiveness of] you coming out with a statement that is just logical, conscious: your critical conscience is just working, and you say the virus hasn\u2019t killed anybody at the moment, [deaths] are down, we have no new deaths, even though we have new \u2018<em>cases<\/em>\u2019 and the cases can be put down to the suspect test, the PCR test. And you say this, but that\u2019s all on the logical level, when in actual fact they have been programmed almost on this primal level, this instinctual level. It kicks in, and that\u2019s when you get this \u2018<em>Oh my God, do you hear what he\u2019s saying!<\/em>\u2019, and that\u2019s what you\u2019re talking about. Does that answer your question?<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><strong>DC:<\/strong>\u00a0<em>It does, yes, because it\u2019s quite extraordinary. It does explain why people\u2019s walls go up just so quickly. I suppose really the question is: What is the best way to reach people who are \u2013 I don\u2019t want to say so far gone, because I don\u2019t want to give up on our brothers \u2013 but how do you speak to them?<\/em><\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">\n(<em>to be continued<\/em>)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We publish a full transcript of a seminal interview with John Anthony conducted by Dave Cullen of\u00a0Computing Forever, uploaded on 1st October 2020. 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