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Programming the suggestible<\/strong><\/p>\n John Anthony: <\/strong>And we\u2019ve discussed the issues here, like different ways that you can programme people. There\u2019s even a therapy, if you like, if you call it that, I think it\u2019s called a primal intervention, I\u2019m not quite sure of that now, and it\u2019s where people who are first responders, ambulance drivers, \u2013 you know, maybe fire brigades, even policemen, all this kind of stuff \u2013 and they find that [victims latch on to] the information or the statements that they make to the victims in this circumstance \u2013 be it a crash, or [whatever].<\/p>\n And this is exactly what we were talking about before: the crash. The \u201cintegrity of the body<\/em>\u201d is damaged. The fear, you know.<\/p>\n It could be people in different situations. Ambulance people pick up drunks off the street sometimes and find themselves in these weird situations. And what\u2019s actually said to people in those situations can be very profound and powerful. It can be more powerful than maybe a couple of hours of therapy afterwards, when it\u2019s said in that [immediate] situation.<\/p>\n And this is what we\u2019re talking about: to understand what\u2019s actually being said to you and that it corresponds with how you feel about society. Hence your anger when you hear somebody, you know, makes a point, and you say [in response], \u2018That doesn\u2019t make sense<\/em>,\u2019 and they say, \u2018Oh my God, sure lookit, you\u2019re only being a conspiracy theorist!<\/em>\u2019<\/p>\n You get what I\u2019m saying here? It\u2019s well understood that in these situations, people become very suggestible. And then if you get them making their reference, their terms of reference are outside themselves.<\/u> So the poor woman that\u2019s looking at an a abusive husband: she looks at him to see \u2018Is he smiling, is he not smiling<\/em>\u2019, right? So the reference is gone from herself and now lies with the abuser<\/strong>, who can decide<\/strong>, \u2018Ah, you know, I\u2019ll be good to her today; tomorrow I won\u2019t be so good, and I\u2019ll keep that lack of continuity going<\/em>.\u2019 And I think we discussed that the last day as well \u2013 that\u2019s one way, by the way, of controlling people: when you break down on continuity.<\/p>\n Dave Cullen: <\/strong>Yes, and it\u2019s also the environment that they create, which is sort of the world-building aspect, effect, as I would describe it.<\/em><\/p>\n So, you talked about this before: If you\u2019ve got a radio DJ, maybe doing an interview with someone, and they could be talking about anything: talking about farming, talking about someone\u2019s new book, they could be talking about cooking, they could be talking about football <\/em>\u2013 it doesn\u2019t matter <\/em>\u2013 and they will throw in something like, \u2018So how are you?\u2019 They are having a conversation between each other, obviously the audience is listening in on the radio, and they are talking about, you know, they say something like, \u2018How are you handling these unprecedented times?\u2019, or whatever it is. Talk a little about that <\/em>\u2013 you had a term there.<\/em><\/p>\n J.A.:<\/strong> That was a very important one, yes, because that\u2019s what\u2019s happening too. Again, [it was] the discussion that I heard on the radio on Sunday, and there was somebody talking about [the news that] they were re-introducing Dempsey\u2019s Den <\/em>[vintage TV show for children], right? That\u2019s what it was. And it was making some kind of a comeback in some sort of form or another, you know, and the person that was reintroducing it was sort of praising it and saying, \u2018You know, I always liked that programme and [the characters] Zig and Zag, and everything<\/em>.\u2019 And then, in the middle of it \u2013 and it took me a while to spot this, because I don\u2019t always spot it straight away either, [even though] I\u2019m looking into this all the time \u2013 but what she said was \u2018It\u2019s the injection we need.<\/em>\u2019<\/p>\n There you have a little [instance of] what\u2019s called an \u2018embedded command<\/em>\u2019. It\u2019s an embedded suggestion in the middle of a discussion that had nothing to do with it: \u2018It\u2019s the injection we need.<\/em>\u2019 So you can [chalk] that one up to whatever you want. What does that mean? What was being said to you, even thought it was covert and under the wire? So, talking about something like a TV programme \u2013 that\u2019s exactly what you are talking about \u2013 [you get] these suggestions.<\/p>\n And another one was \u2013 again, just going back to last Sunday \u2013 there were either items of news on Sunday in the middle, sometime around the twelve o\u2019clock, one o\u2019clock mark, it was round about that. And I was in the car and I was travelling, right, and there were eight items. Now, seven of them were all about the \u2018worldwide spiralling cases<\/em>\u2019, you know: \u2018What\u2019s the hospital capacity?<\/em>\u2019, \u2018What\u2019s the concerns the government have for the hospital capacity?<\/em>\u2019. It wasn\u2019t, you know, asking exactly \u2018What is the capacity?<\/em>\u2019, \u2018How many do you expect in?<\/em>\u2019; there were no kind of really hard questions. But it was a suggestive question, you know: \u2018What are the concerns of the government regarding hospital capacity?<\/em>\u2019 \u2014 meaning that, when you go away, if you only just heard that alone, you\u2019d be saying, \u2018Oh my God, the hospitals are going to fill up, and they won\u2019t be able to treat it<\/em>,\u2019 you know?<\/p>\n Bring on the influencers<\/strong><\/p>\n Next one on the list was, you know, \u2018Can influencers<\/em>\u2019 \u2013 and this was a kind of a new one on me: influencers, right? \u2013 \u2018Can influencers turn the tide in young people\u2019s attitudes?<\/em>\u2019 They didn\u2019t say what was wrong with the attitude, what was occuring to them. They didn\u2019t say it was to turn the tide. They want to kind of get people, and they were talking about \u2018influencers<\/em>\u2019 on social media, getting young people to say phrases that they want them to say, so that they turn the tide.<\/p>\n What was the tide? I don\u2019t know. [The mainstream media talking point is:] \u2018With cases worldwide spiralling upwards,<\/em>\u2019 you know, \u2018we check in with a worldwide leading epidemiologist<\/em>\u2019 \u2013 that was another, again, a headline leading in. And of the eight items, every one of them carried this message, you know. \u2018We talked to a GP [general practitioner, family doctor] and a business owner<\/em>\u2019 \u2013 and of course the GP came on and more or less was saying, \u2018Oh, you have to cocoon<\/u>,<\/em>\u2019 you know, and, \u2018If you know somebody who has it, that was tested positive <\/em>\u2013 whether they had symptoms or not, or whether you were in total contact or not <\/em>\u2013 you have to cocoon!<\/em>\u2019<\/p>\n And she [the same doctor on TV] said, \u2018That means \u2026<\/em>\u2019 \u2013 she actually said it out \u2013 \u2018you don\u2019t go to school, you don\u2019t go to work<\/em>.\u2019 And it\u2019s for the person that was in \u2018contact<\/em>\u2019 with the person who was tested positive, as well as for the person who tested positive. So now, when you think of the connection and the number of people that you are beginning to talk to here, [the order is]: \u2018Don\u2019t go to school; don\u2019t go to work, you know, and cocoon yourself for two weeks<\/em>\u2019, you\u2019re talking to an awful lot of people. And this was being given out, this was all in the news items.<\/p>\n Human-interest dross<\/strong><\/p>\n Now here\u2019s an interesting one for you, Dave, and I thought this one was brilliant myself. At the end of the news, there was one of these, you know, these light kind of \u2026 at the end of the news sometimes they gave it, a human [interest] story somewhere, something like that, and they were saying like, \u2018Well, now we\u2019re going to go somewhere and we\u2019re going to talk to people who are mountain biking, right.<\/em>\u2019 And she said \u2013 this was a statement she said \u2013 \u2018And mountain biking is proving to be a tonic in these worrying times<\/em>.\u2019 They couldn\u2019t even leave that one alone, they had to get in this suggestion that \u2018we\u2019re in worrying times<\/em>\u2019 and all this kind of thing, and then she went on to talk to people who aren\u2019t talking about the Covid at all and were talking about their mountain biking. But the mountain biking, it was proving to be \u2018a tonic for these worrying times<\/em>\u2019: no description, no saying exactly what was meant. I hope I\u2019m getting across the absolute invasiveness of this type of programming and how the media \u2014 not the social media; the mainstream media are so involved in it.<\/p>\n D.C.: <\/strong>It\u2019s torture, John. It\u2019s mass psychosis. It\u2019s torture, and they should be <\/em>\u2013 to be honest, I think it\u2019s a form of <\/em>\u2013 it\u2019s pure treason at this point, what they\u2019ve done to people. But I tell you what, though: they\u2019re complicit in the most anti-human scam of all time. It\u2019s a crime against humanity.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n But let me tell you, with all of this and what it\u2019s done to people: even if this scam was to just magically stop tomorrow <\/em>\u2013 Right, that\u2019s it! Open up everything now, life back to normal!\u2019<\/em> \u2013 the damage that this has done to people\u2019s psyche, their sense of trust: talk about what this has done, because, you know, you mentioned before <\/em>\u2013 people who are in relationships with narcissists or even people who are maybe psychotic, what happens to the victim, what mental state do they have afterwards?<\/em><\/p>\n J.A.:<\/strong> What happens is this: that even when they break contact with the perpetrator, put it that way, even when they break contact with the perpetrator, they go through years of \u2013 it can be years, right; some people are different, some people are more resilient than others but it can be years \u2013 they might have developed a dependence on alcohol, they might have suicidal ideation, they could seem depressed, they could feel alone. The alone feeling very often leaves them open to what\u2019s called vacuuming<\/u>. And what they mean by vacuuming \u2013 these are all terms that came in with [study of] narcissistic relationships; the vacuuming means that when they\u2019ve done with you [they will implement] the fourth part \u2013we\u2019ve discussed three of them, [this is] the fourth part of the relationship \u2013 they will dump you, they will go and they will leave, and then the vacuuming is where they come back in and, you know, they say, \u2018I\u2019m a transformed man, and I\u2019ll do this and I\u2019ll do that.<\/em>\u2019 Even though the person knows the history \u2013 it\u2019s in their consciousness, the history about the abuse, about what they went through \u2013 there is a deep, deep loneliness, right, and that\u2019s the addiction<\/u>, it\u2019s [driven by] the deep loneliness that they now go through, because they\u2019re not in a new relationship, maybe.<\/p>\n Maybe it\u2019s because they went into a new relationship but didn\u2019t address their own low self-esteem before doing that; they didn\u2019t address their own boundaries; they didn\u2019t address what was wrong with themselves; they kind of got it about the other person [but not themselves].<\/p>\n And this is the fourth phase: [abusers] leave and [victims] do whatever they\u2019re doing, but then they might be connected with that person through children, they might be connected through property, through business, through jobs; they can be connected in various ways that hold them in place.<\/p>\n Recovering the boundaries you gave away<\/strong><\/p>\n And then they have to look at their boundaries: they necessary say, \u2018Well, what boundaries were there, what did I give to these people, what did I give away to them?<\/em>\u2019. And this really is an interesting one, because here is necessary for you to get people to be reflective about how they are giving away their own esteem, their own sense of reference, their own intuition.<\/p>\n We talked about incongruency before, where you become an apologist for the other person, even though they are doing horrific sorts of things. You become an apologist and you say, \u2018You know what: the government needed to do something and they had to have that lockdown<\/em>.\u2019 And I even heard people saying, \u2018You know, I think they\u2019ve taken the lockdown up too soon and they were letting people back to school too soon.<\/em>\u2019 I\u2019ve heard this kind of thing, because they are locked into this illusion of, you know, that first of all you by necessity admit that you are complicit <\/u>in the relationship \u2013 and this is [a challenge] for the empath, the person who was doing their best and who was a lovely person, they were trying to make things right, they were trying to fix the marriage maybe, the relationship.<\/p>\n The same goes politically for the people who are trying to be compliant, because these are good people that are going out and they want to sort of do the right thing. They are going out there, and they are programmed that way, and they have to look at [the issue of]: \u2018Did I feel good about what I was doing, was there a knot in my stomach, was there something telling me that this isn\u2019t right?<\/em>\u2019, and to look at these kinds of incongruencies and the whole situation, and then to start establishing boundaries for themselves.<\/p>\n To establish a boundary, now, you have to decide \u2013 in a relationship, for instance, in a one-to-one relationship, you know, is necessary for you to help people, if you were in therapy with them \u2013 you would be helping them to establish boundaries, to establish self-esteem, their self-dignity, their trust in their own judgement, and in their own critical thinking, their judgement of their own experience, right?<\/p>\n So you have them going through this situation, but they gave all of that up and made [all] the reference to the other person. And this, by the way, in the \u2013 what would you call it? \u2013 parlance of narcissistic, abusive relationships and narcissistic dynamics that you get in families, narcissistic dynamics that you get in society \u2013 this is called \u2018where the flying monkeys come in<\/em>\u2019.<\/p>\n What the \u2018flying monkeys<\/em>\u2019 refers to is where you begin to, because you are manipulated into it, you begin to give away what you thought was right, to another person. And it\u2019s so covert, it\u2019s a bit like this: If I\u2019m \u2013 God forbid, but if I\u2019m in a relationship and I\u2019m abusing the other person and I want to control them, I don\u2019t go to them and say, \u2018You know, I think you should do this<\/em>.\u2019 That\u2019s very overt; people do<\/u> that, but it\u2019s not effective.<\/p>\n But what I might do is, I might go to their sister or their brother, or I might go to their best friend, and I\u2019d say, \u2018You know, I\u2019m really worried about that person, I\u2019m really worried about John. You know, he\u2019s drinking a bit much or he\u2019s doing this and that<\/em>.\u2019 And then they are used as what\u2019s called the flying monkeys \u2013 it\u2019s a reference to the [Wizard of Oz<\/em>] fable about Dorothy and the Wicked Witch of the West: she usen\u2019t [didn\u2019t use] to go out herself, but she\u2019d send flying monkeys \u2013 in the fable, you know, if you\u2019re familiar with the story. But the flying monkeys used to go out on her bidding, and they would do this.<\/p>\n So I would stroke somebody else\u2019s ego: I would take your brother or your sister, and somebody that I kind of got along with. These people can be very charming by the way they can, you know, be very convincing and say, \u2018I\u2019m worried about Dave,<\/em>\u2019 or, \u2018I\u2019m worried about John<\/em>,\u2019 and, you know, \u2018Just now, I think, you know, I\u2019m just now at my wits<\/em>\u2019 end, really; \u2018really, I don\u2019t know what to do you know, do you think you <\/u>could have a word with him?<\/em>\u2019<\/p>\n Now you\u2019ve got your flying monkey and their ego is stroked, and they think this is very important, you know, and [they reason,] \u2018I do love this person and I\u2019ll go and I\u2019ll help them and I\u2019ll help this [gaslighting] man, he seems to be doing his best<\/em>.\u2019 And [so] I go along to that person, and I say to him, \u2018Do you know, well, I was talking to such a person there the other day, and I know they\u2019re very concerned<\/em> \u2013 and so am I<\/u>, to be honest<\/em>,\u2019 you know.<\/p>\n Now, the flying monkeys in this case are the mainstream media and the HSE: they\u2019re absolutely the flying monkeys, without a shadow of a doubt. 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