Dave Cullen: <\/strong>As we bring it to a conclusion, I can predict something happening <\/em>\u2013 and I think you can as well <\/em>\u2013 which factors exactly into what you describe very well there, which is that when what I\u2019ve described as the dam breaks and the truth emerges, I think a lot of people will be in denial and will probably just want to shake off 2020 as a bad dream: \u2018We don\u2019t talk about it, let\u2019s forget about it because I don\u2019t want to admit the fact that I was fooled\u2019. That\u2019s a very hard thing for people to accept let alone, the behaviour they went on with. It brought out the worst in people. It brought out the \u2018Get away from me, you\u2019re standing too close to me!\u2019 or \u2018Where\u2019s your face mask?\u2019, and, really, total strangers feeling entitled to say that kind of expressions and emboldened to treat each other quite poorly in some instances. That is definitely a scar tissue that is sort of left after this. But I tell you something I would predict.<\/em><\/p>\n I would say <\/em>\u2013 and you\u2019ve already seen Leo Varadkar make overtures, in terms of, \u2018Should we continue some of the restrictions?\u2019, and this kind of phrases <\/em>\u2013 I think what they\u2019ll do in a year or two\u2019s time is you\u2019ll have the media start to try to take the side of the public. I think [their] trying to entertain the likes of Dr [Martin] Feeley and his debate<\/em> with Professor [Sam] McConkey is the beginnings of that, and even the BBC in the UK have started to call them anti-lockdown protests.<\/em><\/p>\n They\u2019re not calling them \u2018conspiracy theorists\u2019, they\u2019re not calling them \u2018far right\u2019 now, they\u2019re actually just calling them \u2018anti-lockdown protests\u2019, so I think the instruction is there that they know the dam is breaking and so they are kind of giving it their due. So I think what\u2019s going to happen is that eventually it\u2019s going to be sort of like, in a year\u2019s time you\u2019re going to hear the media say, \u2018We were trying to hold them to account.\u2019 They are going to try and spin it, to save themselves, and try to seem like they were always on the side of the public. And the politicians might do something similar, where they\u2019ll do this quick change, where they\u2019ll change sides.<\/em><\/p>\n John Anthony: <\/strong>That\u2019s not a prediction, Dave, that\u2019s just happening, you know. Also, I would say this, as a closing comment: I would say that we are very near to the end of the cycle. The cycle goes around: it goes with the lovebombing, the idealisation, followed by the denigration, the breaking down of the other person, the maintaining of control, and the abuse begins to kick in. The people will deny it and they will say, \u2018They are doing it for the best reasons<\/em>,\u2019 and all this kind of words. I\u2019ve heard these discussions.<\/p>\n Abandoning the victim to his fate<\/strong><\/p>\n And now we are coming to the abandonment phase, right? That is where they will possibly lock down the whole country, and they will give an excuse for it and all of that kind of thing. I think that probably is somewhere down the line, where the security forces will be called in to certain areas, and this is just based on this model.<\/p>\n We\u2019re not even talking about coronavirus here. We\u2019re talking nothing of the sort. We\u2019re not going on the evidence of Ivor Cummins, of Dolores Cahill, John Ioannidis, or I think it was Karol Sikora, the epidemiologist, who said back in April (2020) \u2013 no, it was a little bit later \u2013 that the virus was actually over. The curve was done. It had gone through the population by May. This goes along with what Ivor Cummins has presented, and it goes along with what Dolores Cahill was talking about.<\/p>\n That\u2019s on a logical level, but these people \u2013 remember that it\u2019s like the fraudsters coming to your house \u2013 they want to stage something. It\u2019s a different level of thinking. And [meanwhile,] you\u2019re talking about the virus and the statistics and all the \u2018logical\u2019 reasons you have for it. That just helps to introduce confusion, because they are not doing any of [that], and you\u2019re saying, \u2018Well, wait a minute: why are they doing that now when this is practically over and there\u2019s no deaths?<\/em>\u2019, or whatever. That\u2019s just the confusion. They will keep pummeling this into people with the fear and the confusion and the New Normal, and all this kind of stuff.<\/p>\n But the final part of it is this: that these people do not know when to stop, and the reason why they don\u2019t know when to stop is that they don\u2019t have much empathy for the Irish public, for the people with jobs, homes, families to run. They say they do, but they don\u2019t actually have it, because what they are talking about is power, is manipulation, and is this control, and they like the attention.<\/p>\n What the narcissist gorges on<\/strong><\/p>\n But they don\u2019t know when to stop, these people, because they\u2019re not in touch with the people. They are not in touch with what\u2019s happening on the ground, nor some of them \u2013 some of them, I say \u2013 do not care. This is not a diagnostic, by the way: we\u2019re not calling these people [narcissists], we are only calling it a narcissistic model. We are putting it in a model [so] that people can see what\u2019s happening; and when you see what\u2019s happening, that can serve to wake you up a little bit.<\/p>\n And, as I say, we\u2019ve touched on it. We have touched on the virus, we\u2019ve touched on the statistics, we\u2019ve touched on the nonsensical aspects of some of it, and all this kind of aspects. But that\u2019s not the purpose of this discussion. The purpose of this discussion is to wake you up and let you see what\u2019s already happened: it\u2019s already in our history, in our experience.<\/p>\n Rinse and repeat at higher speed<\/strong><\/p>\n It\u2019s there in this programme, and the final part of the programme is abandonment. What will that do? What shape will that take? Maybe some of them will have a go a putting the security forces in place, I\u2019m not sure, but we\u2019re in that phase now, because we\u2019ve gone through the other three. And after that phase, by the way, the cycle can start over again.<\/p>\n So what happens there on an individual level \u2013 where, we\u2019ll say, if somebody is vacuumed, is re-groomed back into a relationship \u2014 usually, what happens is that the relationship now goes through the same cycle again; but this time, it goes through it at a faster, accelerated pace, so the lovebombing will last a shorter length of time: it will go straight into the denigration and devaluing very quickly, and then it will go into the control and the abuse. I remember hearing many years ago, on [Irish national flagship talkshow] the Late Late Show<\/em>, somebody talking about [how] she was in a abusive relationship for fifteen years and she didn\u2019t know why. She said, \u2018To this day, I do not know why I stayed in it<\/em>\u2019. Fifteen years she was in it, but she stayed in it because of all the stuff we\u2019ve talked about now, that leaves you locked in it. You\u2019re addicted to it.<\/p>\n You\u2019re waiting for this moment when the person will give you validation and say, \u2018I\u2019m so sorry about what I did there, and I\u2019m mending my ways,<\/em>\u2019 and to actually mean it, right. That will never happen, but what holds you in place is the hope that it will happen. The hope that they will say, \u2018We\u2019re going to end the lockdown now, towards the end of the year.<\/em>\u2019 They will give you little bits of hope at times, and that\u2019s what will happen, but the control will increase.<\/p>\n D.C.:<\/strong> Oh, yes. It\u2019s very possible that they will even give people Christmas, right, and people will say, \u2018Oh, aren\u2019t they so generous to let us have this Christmas?\u2019<\/em><\/p>\n \u00a0<\/strong>J.A.:<\/strong> Yes! You forget that they are actually giving you something that was actually your right to have in the first place. And that\u2019s the control aspect, that\u2019s the insidious aspect of it: that you have given away all of this, and it\u2019s like the Stockholm syndrome again. You have been kidnapped by this group, and then suddenly one of them comes in after torturing you or beating you up or doing whatever, and they offer you a cup of water and you say, \u2018Thanks so much for that<\/em>\u2019, and then you establish this sort of relationship.<\/p>\n It\u2019s a narcissistic relationship, it\u2019s an abusive one, but you\u2019re kind of locked into it, and that makes you very attached to the person that\u2019s locking you in.<\/p>\n That\u2019s what\u2019s happening. That\u2019s the whole roll-out of it, Dave, from beginning to end. We\u2019ve gone through it. In one way, the model is very simple, in one way, but as long as you get it, and I hope I\u2019ve described it.<\/p>\n \u00a0<\/strong>D.C.: <\/strong>Yes, brilliantly, John, and I hope that Irish people take it on board and listen to it. And, indeed, this is global and it applies to whatever country that you\u2019re in, to varying degrees.<\/em><\/p>\n Loving your own people back to sanity<\/strong><\/p>\n J.A.:<\/strong> Yes. I\u2019ve taken Ireland because I live in Ireland, and I see the Irish people and I see a beautiful island of really healthy, beautiful people. And even if they are wearing masks and they are compliant, I\u2019m not against them in any way. It\u2019s a wonderful nation, but we\u2019ve been infiltrated and this relationship has sort of sprung up. And all of a sudden, we\u2019ve found ourselves in the thick of it. It may have come from higher up, like globally or whatever, but that\u2019s the relationship we\u2019re in.<\/span><\/p>\n And if they [can just] see it, if they see the model, if they can see what\u2019s happening, looking at just the history \u2013 don\u2019t mind all the stuff about the actual virus itself; there\u2019s other people that you can refer to about that, like Dolores Cahill, Ivor Cummins, or any of those, or yourself listening to your programme; they will go through that with you, but that\u2019s only the logic \u2013 but be aware of the deep, deep programming, the conditioning, the suggestibility, the hypnosis, the NLP, neurolinguistic programming.<\/p>\n This is what it\u2019s called: programming. And when you look at it on the micro level and you see the relationships and how they pan out, and when you describe this model to people, I\u2019ve seen situations with people when they\u2019ve sat back and they said, \u2018Oh my God, it wasn\u2019t my fault, it wasn\u2019t my doing; I\u2019m not guilty of this, I\u2019m not mad<\/em>.\u2019 They have various terms like this, and it\u2019s like a great lifting, you know.<\/p>\n They still need for a lot of work to do at this stage, but after that initial lift, you can see it almost transforming their face and their eyes, and some of them cry, some them smile. And it\u2019s like a lifting that happens, and this lifting can occur to you, it can occur to anybody: all you need to do is understand how It was put in place. How it occurred, you know, the programming that was involved, the stages that were involved like we discussed, and when you come to a kind of \u2026 there will be a moment, and it won\u2019t come from logic, working it out, very often.<\/p>\n But there\u2019ll be a moment, and it won\u2019t come from logically working it out, but there\u2019ll be a moment, maybe in a weeks time, when something will click in you and you say, \u2018Oh my God, that\u2019s what I\u2019ve been doing all this time<\/em>\u2019. And that can release you from the bondage of abuse or the bondage of political tyranny. You still have a lot of work to do, or you still have to make it known \u2013 I don\u2019t know what happens politically to change this, but there is a lot of work to do \u2013 but that is a great place to start.<\/p>\n D.C.:<\/strong> It is, John. You described it brilliantly, and I think a lot of people are going to get a huge amount out of this interview, so I\u2019m very grateful for having you on because this has been <\/em>\u2013 you know, we can talk about data, we can talk about the modelling, we can talk about the flawed statistics and everything else and the studies and the PCR testing and all this; I can go into [that] with Dolores Cahill or whoever it is <\/em>\u2013 but this is the remaining piece of the puzzle, which is the psychological component of it.<\/em><\/p>\n Because you can present people with all the information, you can explain to them that 2+2=4 and they\u2019ll still believe it\u2019s 5, and they\u2019ll get angry with you <\/em>\u2013 \u2018For how dare you, telling me the truth!\u2019, and that\u2019s the reason. It\u2019s about trying to get them to understand that they\u2019ve been deceived and the pattern of behaviour that they\u2019ve actually got in[to], and the pattern of thinking, the very destructive pattern.<\/em><\/p>\n J.A.:<\/strong> I hope people get that. It\u2019s not a judgement, it\u2019s not any kind of \u2026 it\u2019s just way of explaining pattern, a model. It\u2019s a map, and a map will make more sense [of your situation] if you\u2019re out of breath and you happen to see on a map that you\u2019re climbing a mountain and you were told you were on flat land. Well, it will kind of explain something, do you know? It\u2019s all of this. It\u2019s not a diagnostic of anybody in a psychiatric way.<\/p>\n It\u2019s just that we use \u2013 I have used, for the want of a better word \u2013 this narcissistic agenda, but it doesn\u2019t mean that we are diagnosing people with narcissism or NPD [Narcissistic Personality Disorder]. They could be there too, but [this is] to make them see the pattern and release themselves from the bondage, and without judgement of anybody. If they just released themselves, just woke up to that, [that] would be a tremendous amount of good done. And listen, Dave, you\u2019re great for putting it on. You\u2019ve showed great patience with me and all of that kind of thing, so really, I\u2019m thankful for that: not personally for me, but just for the fact that it\u2019s out there now, and that somehow it will filter out to people. And I hope they get something out of it.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n <\/p>\n yogaesoteric<\/strong> \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n <\/p>\n \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" We publish a full transcript of a seminal interview with John Anthony conducted by Dave Cullen of Computing Forever, uploaded on 1st October 2020. 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Control, manipulation and attention<\/u>. They\u2019re getting attention. That\u2019s called \u2018narcissistic feed<\/em>\u2019, and they bloom on narcissistic feed. So whether it be our Taoiseach, or our ex-Taoiseach, when he comes out and stands in front of the nation, this is narcissistic feed. Could it be anything else? At this stage, I don\u2019t think so, simply because they\u2019re not making sense any more.<\/p>\n![\"\"](\"http:\/\/yogaesoteric.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/04\/cov3.jpg\")
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